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On 12/3/2003 at 7:34 PM Richard Lake <rlake@mapinc.org> wrote:

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Not that I am aware of, Leon. However I will ask on the largest drug policy

list in Canada, CMAP, and see if anyone else knows.

http://www.mapinc.org/cmap/lists.htm

Canadian moves into the forfeiture area are fairly recent. Canadians have a

bill of rights like document called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But

unlike our Bill of Rights, their courts tend to uphold the Charter fairly 
strictly. The Canadian legal experts I talk to say that attempts to have 
forfeiture laws like in the U.S. will likely fail when it comes to the 
Charter tests. At best they may be able to include the taking of property 
gained by illegal activitity once the owner is found guilty. Not the 
property found guilty stuff we have.


Richard Lake
Sr. Editor
DrugNews
www.drugnews.org
www.mapinc.org

At 05:47 PM 12/3/03, Leon wrote:
>Organization: Forfeiture Endangers American Rights  http://www.fear.org/
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>Recent news stories from Canada (and Great Britain and Australia!) have
>displayed their enthusiastic support of "fighting crime" by using civil
>forfeiture, thereby bypassing the annoying problem of "civil" societies of
>having to actually prove an accused is guilty before you take his
property.
>Of course this is the news media talking and I would assume that in Canada
>as it is here, the media is more of an outlet for government views rather
>than public views. In any case, you would think that they would at least
be
>aware of the tragic consequences of the governments in the USA following
>this path about 20 years ago.
>
>Obviously, the citizens need to get active in fighting this government

>tyranny or they will quickly find that they are in the same mess we are in
>with no easy way to get out of it. So, my question is, does anyone know of
>any organization in Canada that is organized to fight forfeiture? If so,
we
>need to get together.
>
>If no such organization exists, would anyone be interested in starting
one?
>
>Leon
>
>Leon Felkins, FEAR Executive Director
>Send mail to: leon@fear.org
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